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Breeder/Puppy Referral program.

The information we provide should be considered a guide for helping you contact reputable breeders affiliated with the Miniature Schnauzer Club of Southern California, Inc. The Breeder/Puppy Referral Program is simply a service. It is no guarantee of puppy health or any level of breeder responsibility. It is the puppy buyer's responsibility to ask questions and determine whether any breeder meets the criteria the buyer should have set prior to actually looking for a puppy. It is up to you to determine which breeder is the best one for you.

Reputable breeders have signed a Code of Ethics with the Miniature Schnauzer Club of Southern California, Inc. and breed to the American Kennel Club (AKC) standards. The standard for our breed has been evaluated and determined by the American Miniature Schnauzer Club and the American Kennel Club. It can be found on this site, our parent club's website www.amsc.us and www.akc.org

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The breed standard specifies only three colors: Salt & Pepper, Black & Silver, and Black. The standard does not recognize "toy", "teacup", white, liver, or parti-colored varieties of the breed.

The breeder should ask YOU a series of questions about your family, lifestyle, home, and ability to care for the puppy. Responsible breeders want to place their puppies in the best, safest homes possible.

A responsible breeder should provide you with American Kennel Club registration papers, a copy of your puppy's pedigree, vaccination and worming records, written instructions on feeding and care, and a spay/neuter contract. They may also give you copies of the parent's eye exams. Prices, deposits, and health guarantees are up to each individual breeder. Make sure you ask for their policies.

The following members of the Miniature Schnauzer Club of Southern California, Inc. They will know who has puppies available. Please be respectful and call during daytime or early evening hours only.

Vera Potiker
951-780-6284
e-mail: kelvercrest@aol.com

Kathy Colby
951-203-9691
e-mail:kwicminis@yahoo.com

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What to Consider When Buying a Miniature Schnauzer
Frequently Asked Questions

What Age?
What Sex?
When should I spay or neuter my dog?
What is a responsible Breeder?
What are risky puppy resources?
Why not White?

What Age?
*Puppy, Adolescent, or Adult: Each age range has its advantages & disadvantages.

Puppies: Puppies are the cutest and the most appealing, but are also the most expensive and the most work. They tend to be the most destructive; they may dig and chew well past one year of age. Just like human babies, they must be watched to be sure they don't ingest things that will harm them and that they don't destroy valuables. They need vaccinations every 2 or 3 weeks until they are about four months old. Don't buy a pup that has been separated from its mother before 8 weeks of age. Early separation can deprive a pup of the very critical period of emotional development.

Adolescents: Older puppies - 5 to 12 months old - tend to look awkward but they have completed their shots and worming (if needed) and they are mature enough to begin training. It is also easier to evaluate what the adult personality of the dog may be at this stage.

Adults: With adult dogs, what you see is what you get. Adult Miniature Schnauzers generally bond well with new owners who give them love and care. Even those who seem aloof or timid at first usually bond well within 2-3 weeks. Adults from shelters or rescue programs often respond very well to just a little love and care, but be cautious about adopting an animal that shows aggressive tendencies unless you have had dogs before and are confident in your ability to train & handle a difficult dog. At times, breeders will have excellent quality adults which they no longer wish to use in their breeding programs. These animals usually have good temperaments and are often well-trained and fully house-broken.

What Sex?

This is a question of personal preference. Personality differs much more from animal-to-animal than it does by sex.

When should I spay or Neuter my dog?

Miniature Schnauzer Club of Southern California, Inc., breeders typically request the dog to be altered at 6 – 7 months of age, unless it will be a Show dog or the contract specifically allows the dog to be breed. You should also consult your veterinarian and follow his or her advice. The exact time will vary from breeder to breeder and from veterinarian to veterinarian. This is part of your ongoing relationship with your breeder and your veterinarian.

The above information compiled by the Public Awareness Committee of the Miniature Schnauzer Club of Southern California, Inc.

Information below courtesy the American Miniature Schnauzer Club.

What is a Responsible Breeder?

The most reliable source for any pure-bred puppy is a responsible breeder. Responsible Breeders are knowledgeable about their breed, screen for genetic diseases, and should offer a written guarantee, and offer information and assistance. They usually belong to a local or national breed club where they can network with other knowledgeable breeders. They breed for temperament, good health and soundness.

Close to every good breeder's heart is a sincere, honest and untiring effort to improve the breed. The male and female selected as parents of the litter represent years of knowledge and study. Certain of the animals in each breeding will not necessarily offer the potential to become show champions. Those puppies which do not meet rigid show requirements possess all the same essential inherited qualities of the puppy that is to be shown. This, then, represents a sound genetic resource for a pet puppy. Your pet will have had the best in a well-balanced diet, proper medical attention, exercise and immunizations. Like his littermates and all your breeder's dogs, your puppy will have had proper veterinary care. This should include an eye examination by a veterinary ophthalmologist as there are a few inherited eye conditions present in the breed.

Most breeder's puppies are part of the family. They are raised in homes where socialization is part of each day's normal routine. Adjustment to a family and to a home is essential at an early age for the puppy to develop into a well adjusted adult dog. Early socialization will enhance house-breaking as well as general acclimation to a new home.

A word about "older" miniature schnauzers: usually the most promising puppy is kept by a breeder until the last, hoping that the promising puppy will become a treasured "show dog". At a young age, it is impossible to accurately forecast the show potential as puppies change so much as they grow. But at 5, 6, 7 months, even a year of age a breeder may decide that this particular pup is not for the show ring. This is the dog that you can see exactly what he is. No guessing or maybe's. His size, conformation, disposition are all there, the finished product. Also, a breeder might have an older dog looking for a "retirement" home after its show and/or breeding career is over. This way the dog can get the love and attention it deserves and not be just "one of the crowd". Many times an older dog is the best choice if you don't have the time or inclination to deal with housebreaking and such.

When you contact a breeder about the potential purchase of a puppy, he may ask you many questions about you and your family, the type of home you live in, previous dogs you have owned, etc. He will probably want to meet the whole family and see how you interact with the puppy. He might even want to visit your home. Please, don't take offense at these seemingly personal questions. Reputable breeders want to be sure that the care and diligence they have invested in their animals is not wasted upon inconsiderate owners. As a result, you should expect an adoption process to assure that you and your pet are well suited for each other in age, temperament, and the environment you must share. You are also justified in asking him questions. He will not be offended in the least. He expects it. This helps to prove your commitment to being a responsible owner.

A responsible breeder will be available to you to answer any questions you might have concerning housebreaking, training, or general care of dogs and our breed specifically. He will be a good reference to recommend a training class, a veterinarian, or a groomer in your area. He is very concerned that the dogs from his breeding are well cared for and feels a responsibility to them throughout their whole life. He will also be interested in any possible health problems that come up during the life of the dog. A responsible breeder does his best to screen for any problems, but would also like to know of any that surface he might not be aware.

In this day and age of pet overpopulation, a responsible breeder feels that only the dogs that conform closest to the breed standard should be bred. He might require you to agree to spay or neuter your new pet before the AKC registration papers are passed on to you. An alternative is a "limited registration". A dog with a "limited registration" can not be shown in conformation competition and his or her offspring can not be registered with the AKC. The dog is eligible to compete in obedience competition and other Performance events, and makes a wonderful pet, but is not considered to be show/breeding quality.

What are Risky Puppy Sources?
The Backyard Breeder

These breeders often are not knowledgeable about the breed standard and they do not mate their dogs to improve the breed. Often, they are totally unaware of genetic or health risks involved. The results of these casual matings between pet quality dogs by breeders with no knowledge of genetic health issues pose a risk to the gene pool and the general health of the puppy. Lacking anyone to recommend his puppies for sale, the backyard breeder often advertises his pups in the newspaper. Since a purebred dog is an investment in your heart as well as your money, the probability of success is far greater with animals bred by concerned, knowledgeable and dedicated breeders. (These breeders will not likely have AKC papered puppies and/or have a pedigree to provide to buyers to indicate lineage.)

Pet Shops - Pet stores buy their pups by the lot from puppy mills, often as young as five weeks of age. For proper animal socialization, puppies should be with their littermates through seven to eight weeks. Some states have laws prohibiting the sale of puppies younger than eight weeks of age. Do not be misled by pet store assurances that these pups come from "private breeders". The term "breeder" refers to the owner of the dam at the time of whelping. Besides, reputable breeders would not allow their puppies to be sold by strangers to other strangers; part of being a responsible breeder is matching the pup with the proper family. Remember, AKC registration or USDA licensing is not an endorsement of the quality of the breeding stock or puppies.

Puppy Mills - These are (usually) commercial operations where the dogs are raised in quantity, not quality. Many have multiple breeds and keep the dogs in poor conditions. These pups do not receive the early socialization so necessary for proper temperament. Puppy mills generally do not consider temperament or health when breeding. These dogs typically end up being sold at pet stores and can have health problems.

A well-bred Miniature Schnauzer will be a beloved family member and companion for many years. Choose (both breeder and dog) wisely!

Why Not White?

The little white schnauzer is not "bad". He is simply not a good specimen of the breed. Check out 'News' to read more... First, please understand that an AKC registration means only that the parents of the dog were also registered with AKC and the validity of that registration depends on the integrity of the persons doing the registering. For instance, a woman in the hospital with a new baby can name any male as the father of that infant. The integrity of the birth certificate depends on her, not the registry. Any dog may be registered with the AKC as long as both of its parents were also AKC registered. That registration says nothing about the quality of the dog.

You ask a very legitimate question, why are whites so bad? Let me try to answer that on a very simple level. There is a written definition of what each breed shall be. That definition dates back to the origin of the breed and is on paper for anyone interested to read. This definition is what makes a Great Dane a Great Dane, a Poodle a Poodle, a Dalmatian a Dalmatian, etc. etc. etc.. It is not up to each of us to decide that we would like to change each of these breeds because we "like it" or "find it appealing". Adhering to these definitions is what retains the individuality of the breed. Breeding to the definition is the challenge for the breeder. A brown Dalmatian might be cute – be he is no longer a Dalmatian; a tiny Great Dane would be more easily kept – but he is no longer a Great Dane, and a hard coated Poodle would be easier to groom, but he wouldn't be a poodle. And in that same light, a white schnauzer is no longer a schnauzer; he is disqualified because he does not meet the definition of that breed.

The little white schnauzer is not "bad". He is simply not a good specimen of the breed. I would suggest that the person who likes a small white terrier seriously consider the purchase of a Westie. (By the way, the Westie wouldn't be a Westie if he were any color other than white.)

Marcia Feld, 3/97 ;American Miniature Schnauzer Club; AKC Licensed Judge ;Last Updated (Wednesday, 25, July 2007)

 

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